“Ryan pulled up a site called Eco Zoo. It is, seemingly, a pretty intense example of Flash development full of 3D rendering, rich interactions, and cute little characters,” Farrell reports. “Then, he pulled up the same thing on his Nexus One. The site’s progress bar filled in and the 3D world appeared for a few seconds before the browser crashed.”
“Apparently Ryan said ‘Whoops! Well, it’s beta, and this is an intense example – let’s try it again,'” Farrell reports. “He tried it again and got the same result.”
Farrell reports, “So he said to the audience, ‘Well, this one isn’t going to work, but does anyone have a Flash site they’d like to see running?’ A wag shouted out Hulu and Ryan sheepishly said, ‘Hulu doesn’t work.'”
Full article here.
MacDailyNews Take: Stewart must be a masochist. Not only does he saddle himself with the nightmare job of trying to evangelize Adobe Flash (which is akin to evangelizing nail guns to Lasik surgeons), he also bought himself one of the very few rebadged HTC “Google Nexus Ones” phones ever sold. You just know he’s got to be a Dell-boy Windows PC sufferer, too.
YouTuber “zedomax” tries to run Adobe’s Flash on an Android tablet prototype:
Direct link to video via YouTube here.
Yeah, good thing you didn’t get an iPad, crash-boy.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “G4Dualie” for the heads up.]
Note to advertisers: (including those who advertise via third-party ad networks and become, in effect, our advertisers): Your Flash-based ads are no longer reaching the most well-heeled customers online: 50+ million iPhone owners. They’re also not hitting 35+ million iPod touch users or 1+ million brand new iPad users. If you care about reaching people with discretionary income, you might want to consider dumping your flash-based ads and moving to a more open format that people with money and the will to spend it can actually see.
Help kill Adobe’s Flash:
• Ask MarketWatch to offer HTML5 video via the customer support web form here.
• Ask CNBC to offer HTML5 video via the customer support web form here.
• Contact Hulu and ask them to offer HTML5 video via email:
• Ask ESPN360 to offer HTML5 video instead Flash via their feedback page here.
• Join YouTube’s HTML5 beta here.
• On Vimeo, click the “Switch to HTML5 player” link below any video.
By the way, do not buy Adobe’s Photoshop Elements until you have tried Pixelmator’s free 30-day trial. We use Pixelmator daily.
[Thanks to MacDailyNews Reader “Frank P” for the heads up.]
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I love the smell of HTML5 napalm early in the morning…
Yes, please, I’d like to have Flash crashing on my iPhone. Actually, I’ll buy a second phone to have it crash Safari there, too.
Please.
“If at first you don’t succeed, cry, cry again…..”
-Flash Mantra
I one tried to use shitty Adobe Flash on a shitty Google phone synced to my shitty Dell running shitty Windows…once.
Ha, ha, ha, nice.
Flash Beta = Feta, it stinks.
Actually, and not that it excuses Flash or Ryan Stewart in any case, according to Croft, Stewart fired up his Mac …
http://jeffcroft.com/blog/2010/may/08/android-flash-demo-flashcamp-seattle/
FTA: Here’s what happened: On his Mac, Ryan pulled up a site called Eco Zoo. It is, seemingly, a pretty intense example of Flash development — full of 3D rendering, rich interactions, and cute little characters. Then, he pulled up the same thing on his Nexus One. The site’s progress bar filled in and the 3D world appeared for a few seconds before the browser crashed. Ryan said (paraphrasing), “Whoops! Well, it’s beta, and this is an intense example — let’s try it again.”
Why do you still use flash on the main site mdn ?
Hilarious that flash kept crashing and hulu which is only need doesnt work
I think this product will be nothing more than a “flash in the pan”.
Sorry, after all this time, somebody had to say it!
Stewart seems like a pretty reasonable guy. No need to rip him a new one.
The question is: Why? Why woud any website need to that intensive? At that point wouldn’t OpenGL or canvas be more efficient? That’s why dedicated app on mobile platform offers better experience.
I for one want to see flash on the iPhone – I’m tired of my night photos turning out so dim.
Over 2 weeks with my 3G iPad… and I haven’t cried for Flash once. Priceless.
It is ever thus:
Do a demo, lose a sale.
Anyone surprised? Me too.
MDN magic word: change
as in
HTML5 is change we can believe in.
That is one huge FAIL FAIL FAIL!!! lol
“Apparently Ryan said ‘Whoops! Well, it’s beta,…”
That is what Adobe should change the name of Flash to, ‘Whoops! Well, it’s beta’
MDN magic word: ‘wall’
As in what Adobe’s Flash is hitting right now!
Adobe should be buying Carbon Credits for overloading the web.
After all, most of the electricity used to power the web and the computers that are on the web is made in coal fired generating stations.
If Adobe had to pay for their shoddy coding, they’d either fix flash or kill it.
Is that pure coincidence or amazing insight on MDN’s part because ‘Dell boy’ (or to be precise Del boy) adds such relevance and in particular, humour for anyone in the UK that is so appropriate in this particular instance. How very apt indeed to anyone who knows the real Del Boy. Anyone who doesn’t get it just google it. Says everything we need to know about a flash incompetent salesman.
Jobs must be dancing a jig of success at apple today
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I love how the “I was right” and “told you so” apply in this situation 😀
Bill Gates was heard chuckling, “Ah the good ol days crashing demos in front of an audience”
If adobe STILL does not see the program has serious flaws, then something is wrong. I think the shareholder’s over there (who ever is dumb enough to own ADBE) should find some new leadership… one with common sense brains and ambition. What has always been very sad to be is how lazy Adobe is to creating “new”… Adobe hasn’t created much new in a long time. For a graphics company to not even offer much in the 3D world is sad. (I know CS5 has some 3D elements to it), but when there’s a bunch of apps out there doing 3D (swivel 3D, etc.. ) and Adobe has been very bad in this area. I know they have some lame 3D emulation stuff, but nothing worth getting excited about. How long has Apple has “Core Annimation” now?
Highly enjoyable.
Play with an iPad for a day and you realize rather quickly that you don’t need Flash.
If you read the cack Ryan Stewart writes over at Adobe, you know this crash couldn’t happen to a more deceitful dweeb.
The thing about ‘evangelism’ is that you’re supposed to impress someone that you have something revelational to offer in contrast to what people are used to. That does not apply with Flash. Oops. Therefore, in Adobe’s case it is not so much evangelism as snake oil salesmanship.
From the author of the same article:
“Personally, I hope Adobe gets Flash working well on Android soon. Flash is still one of the greatest tools we as web developers have, and the idea that HTML5 can do everything that Flash can do and thus renders Flash irrelevant is completely inaccurate — patently absurd, in fact.”
http://jeffcroft.com/blog/2010/may/08/android-flash-demo-flashcamp-seattle/