You don’t need any Adobe product to convert files to pdf. Just open the Print dialogue and select “save as pdf” from the PDF menu in the lower left corner of the window.

There’s another side of the story and Adobe has to save face.

Or is this just about Flash?

They know that there isn’t a competitor around that offers the same broad range of packages and value.

Adobe wishes. In reality, Adobe is a very small fish in a very big pond that just happens to make one very indispensable product: Photoshop. Without Photoshop, Adobe is irrelevant, whatever delusions they may have to the contrary.

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Gonna get my Designers to download it and try it out for a few weeks.

P Burrows | MD + Owner
SO // we create.

Please Apple do it!

Adobe have seemingly forgotten this – as can be seen by the bloated software we see from them today.

Its not about creating a proprietary format in a sea of open web standards. The web is different than say print or video where proprietary standards are more easily accepted.

Their decline depends on a competitor who can begin to lure away customers. As every other post in these threads demonstrates, “I depend on Adobe products for my living” from all the blind designers, there is no current alternative that they are WILLING to try.

(There ARE good alternatives on the market, but most of these designers are too stuck in the mud to even try. Heck, more than half of them choose Adobe Lightroom instead of Apple’s Aperture! There is nothing wrong with Aperture, but it can’t even claw them away. These designers are totally stuck in their habits and refuse to budge. Therefore, Adobe is safe, and Adobe knows it!)

“Adobe Management = Hubris
Quicken Management = Hubris”

Hubris = Stage One (of five) in Jim Collin’s “How the Mighty Fall And Why Some Companies Never Give In”

Unless the management in these companies can change, you can extrapolate the end result…

Question is, do they have the sense to?

You are spot on.

“You’d think a smart software company like Adobe could quickly recognise the world was going in a different direction and move with it, instead of wasting time and money on now third-hand technology that had seen its peak.”

That is the very problem! Adobe has reached a stage where it literally dictates what applications we use as designers. It has crushed the competition by acquisition, wide-spread marketing, the CS bundles, and, in the case of InDesign; a blend of superb program development on top of Quarks own mistakes. Photoshop itself rules over everything in its class.

Certainly this is the case in the USA but obviously in South Africa you feel this too and it shows the global range of Adobe’s influence. Adobe is the Microsoft for this decade. As I said earlier, FreeHand should NEVER have been allowed to be bought and then crushed to protect Illustrator’s market share. Federal Trade Commission, where were you?

(fwiw, .ZA has a very large membership at the free freehand organization.)

I think they have a lot of areas they are branching out into and I’d prefer to see a company like Adobe be more focused on these products to try and keep them more efficient and well designed.

I know it’s a dream, and Adobe hasn’t done a very good lately, but there still is an opportunity for Apple to influence a company that many people buy products from.

Let ‘real’ competition ensue.

Watch as Adobe — Bender Rodríguez, style — drops a load of bricks from between their legs.

WHAT!

But all the Windows Weenies say Apple is the new Microsoft.

Could those Windows Weenies be lying?

Interesting. I think that’s what Pixelmator is hoping for. I’ve been testing it out for a bit, better than I thought! works well for most things, it’s light and inexpensive. about 90% of the PS shortcuts work making me almost feel at times I’m using PS. haven’t used any dodging or burning, tools I often use —can’t find ‘em.

no, Pixelmator would make a good start for Apple… unless Apple’s already further along with their own efforts, which I don’t doubt.

Quicken Management = Hubris

I don’t know, Steve can anticipate a lot!

Dammmmnnn…

Sounds like the executives at Adobe shot themselves (and their investors) in the foot.

They must have been trained by Ballmer.

Well said. Quark’s hubris seriously damaged it’s reputation and it’s in the dismal state of having to hang on to the customers it has. Even though version 8.1 is decent to use, PDF output is sketchy and any bugs like that will keep designers away. Adobe has a LOT to learn from Quark and yet clearly is going the same downward direction they did back in 2000.

FreeHand’s mothballing by Adobe is tragic and how this passed through FTC regulation is beyond me. In 1994 when Adobe tried this same stunt with Aldus FreeHand, the FTC moved in quickly and stopped them. It leads me to believe some under-the-table dealings happened with Macromedia execs to divert FTC regulators during the acquisition.

You watch: when Flash finally arrives on Android this fall (late, of course), it will suck dog’s balls, but Adobe and Google and a lot of idiot tech geeks will be raving about how it now supports “the full Internet” and the world is saved and everyone can go out and buy an Android phone. And once people do, they’ll be frustrated because it doesn’t actually work 90% of the time, and it kills their battery life. And Apple will laugh all the way to the bank!

“The Droid Incredible also supports Flash Lite, but I had trouble playing Flash content. I also encountered this problem with the HTC Hero on Sprint.”

And we want Flash? Hmmmmmmm…… Latest OS. Latest UI “overlay” from HTC. Latest version of Flash Lite running on Android. 1 GHz processor. And it can’t run Flash video?

I think I’ll pass on Flash.

That’s otta sting…

And then Adobe finally did do something about it.
They stopped giving Adobe employees iPhones.

“There.
See?!
Fixed!”

- Adobe Managemnet

“What me worry?”

Will Corona take advantage of unique iPhone advantages as they are released?

It’s not just the mobile space, either. It’s been years since the “case-sensitive” path-name bug was reported as a serious issue in Reader and Acrobat, but Adobe has done absolutely nothing to address the problem. Could it be because the bug only affects Macs or Linux and not Windoze. It’s sounding like the old adage — We could send half the Palm management team to Adobe and raise the average IQ in both places.