Microsoft already giving up on Windows Vista

“It seems that Microsoft is already giving up on Vista and is setting up business users to switch from XP to Windows 7,” Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols writes for eWeek.

“Technically, Vista is pure misery. It eats system resources like an elephant does peanuts, Windows applications break and its so-called improved security is a joke. I know it. You know it. Even Microsoft’s most devoted yes-men know it–although they won’t admit it–and perhaps Microsoft knows it as well,” Vaughan-Nichols writes.

Vaughan-Nichols asks, “What else can explain why Microsoft is now leaking news about Windows 7, the next version of Windows?”

MacDailyNews Take: Microsoft said on Wednesday that “Windows 7” is still in the planning stage and will take three years to develop. And that’s before it starts slipping, Longhorn Vista-style. Moo. If you’re a freshman in college, you’ll have your bachelor’s degree (at least) before “Windows 7” ships (you know, the one that Microsoft hopes will finally be able to compete with Mac OS X Tiger, released April 29, 2005).

“Could Vista have missed its shot? Yes, yes, I know, how can I say this when there are tens of millions of copies of it out there? Easily. It’s one thing to drop copies of Vista Home Basic and Premium on Best Buy customers who don’t know any better. It’s another thing entirely to get CIOs and IT managers to spend—or should I say waste?—billions on Vista,” Vaughan-Nichols writes.

“For now, whether Microsoft likes it or not, XP, and not Vista, is the Windows those businesses will continue to use,” Vaughan-Nichols writes. “And the companies that want to move on to a truly better operating system? They’ll be moving to Linux or Mac OS.”

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Microsoft’s unending string of unfulfilled promises will be their ultimate downfall. More and more people are realizing that if they want something that works like a Mac, they should Get a Mac.

152 Comments

  1. ken1w,

    True, OS 9 was nothing but an update for OS 8. I didn’t buy it but got it included in OS 10 when I upgraded. All you say is correct.

    MicroSoft appears to have no focus whatsoever. I think their first move should be to remove Ballmer. That fool is prepping MS for a kamikaze dive. The Yahoo deal seems crazy.

  2. Fedup,

    “Myself I use them all and like them all.”

    You are missing the point. The idiotic bickering is why many of us are here. Join the fun. Never ever say you like them all. Lie through your teeth and pick only one. It doesn’t matter which. Heck, you can even use multiple personalities and bounce back and forth. Whatever you do, don’t take it seriously.

    Personally, I only use this registered name, but it’s up to the individual. Try it.

  3. You may not pay for dog shit sandwiches, but I’ll bet you wolf them down with great gusto. Is that a dingleberry on the corner of your mouth?

    Poor, poor, fanboi, LorD1776. You obviously cannot comprehend the literary use of the simile. It is a shame that you have to borrow my own thread because you haven’t the wit to think of an original reply. Here’s a few hints fer ya,

    LorD1776 is a dumb as a sack of rocks.

    LorD1776 is a dumb as a sack of hammers.

    LordD1776 is as bright as a burned out bulb.

    Is the wood burning yet, Lord1776? I think you might like the hammer reference, you being a tool, that is.

    You don’t see innovation coming from Microsoft.

    Are you and LordD1776 kin? I couldn’t care less about MS, it’s Apple than concerns me. Still your failure to recognize that MS has produced some products is evidence of yer inherent bias and self-fulfilling ignorance. Innovation, however, is no guarantee of success for any company. For example, Mac Cube, Lisa, hockey puck mouse, Newton, ROKR.

    My dear old prof used to say,”Never confuse activity with action.”

  4. I call Bullshit.

    ‘been using the lot of them for years.’

    If you had been using the lot of them for years you would know how much better OS X is than XP, Linux and Vista and you would be part of the chorus raining on Vista’s and Microsoft’s parade.

    If you has used OS X on a Mac you would not think Vista was ‘rather nice’ or ‘nicely integrated’.

    Does Astroturfing for Microsoft pay very well?

  5. I see the day when the next Apple OS will replace OS X as OS X replaced OS 9. This will be likened to Microsoft’s Windows 7 replacing Vista. Man, won’t the mac fanbois howl about that. Other more rational folk will simply go about their business while the fanbois foam at the mouth and lose the continence of their bladders and bowels.

  6. @qka

    make just about whatever else they do a success

    I do give MS credit for the Ford Sync, a reasonably good first-effort product (something unheard of from MS!), and something Apple currently has no answer for. IIRC it’s also iPod compatible, a rather brazen attempt at “embrace and extinguish”.

    However it’s gonna take more than a Ford partnership to keep MS afloat.

    It’ll be interesting to see how Windows 7 development fares as Ballmer bankrupts MS. Crazy to think Vista was just the warm up act.

  7. M$ have a lot to do to replace Vista if they want to do it properly. Following Mac OS X’s roadmap wouldn’t be a bad idea but remember that took Apple 3 years to get to the 10.0 and another two before it became mature. I don’t think M$ have that luxury and they cannot afford to piss off businesses with another piece of crap. I really don’t envy them. Probably best to milk what they’ve got, try and fix some of the glaring issues and start a long term replacement in parallel.

  8. zfd,

    “swoon incoherently with every new Apple release, overlook every software bug, and excuse every hardware fault”?

    The only place where what you’ve described has actually happened, is in your head.

    Go outside and get some fresh air, you’re embarrassing yourself in public.

    Oh wait… you’d *be* embarrassing yourself, if only you weren’t already so embarrassed that you only post anonymously.

  9. Microsoft are NOT interested in making a really good OS – they are only interested in making money.
    I think its fair to say that if you get a whole bunch (mulitiple thousands) of reasonably bright people together and ask them to build a solid OS they should be able to do it.
    The question then is – why cant M$ make a good OS?

    Answer: Because they dont care – they only want money.

    Ballmer is a cast iron numbskull – thats alarmingly obvious. WHY is a fool like him in charge of a huge operation like M$?

    Because they dont care, and the employees just churn out the same shit and pick up their paychecks and their stock options.

    Dont imagine that these people are anything special – they are the same as your neighbor who hasnt returned the drill he borrowed – they are simply human.

    IF, and its a huge IF, they did employ a man (or woman) with vision and intelligence, M$ might survive, but Gates is such a pathetic greedy weenie who got lucky that he is terrified of anyone with brains, so they continue to hire idiots.

    Now they want to buy Yahoo. A co. that has 12% of the searches on the ‘net.

    Yeah, thats it boys. We have 5%, so lets buy another low end company and then together we will have….drum roll here… a slightly larger, very expensive low-end co. with 17% of the search business.

    Except that it wont be 17% because all the Yahoo types will move to Google and Microhoo will be at maybe 8% if they are lucky.

    And all for the bargain price of $45 billion! (22 in cash 23 in shares)

    How to waste $22 billion in cash. CASH!

    Give me $22 billion and I could start a frickin search engine that would capture 5% of the market. So could our cat.

    And some people think M$ can thrive? ROTFLMAO.

    Apple dont need to do anything but care about making a decent product.
    M$ will do all their work for them.

  10. Dang, LorD1776, you keep repeating that “I’m using a registered name.” like a Buddhist monk trapped in a perpetual mantra loop. I think that you must be the only person who really cares.

    Anyone with vision can plainly see that ya got that shiny little image of a metallic ball next to yer name that identifies you as being registered. Big whoop.

    Sixvodkas:

    you only post anonymously.

    And you don’t? Is Sixvodkas yer legal name? Like LorD1776 you pretend that having a registered alias somehow makes you special. Please explain how having a fictitious sobriquet imparts some unique mental powers.

    Apple plans to release 10.5.2 to address the numerous bugs in Leopard. Of course, for you, 10.5.1 is perfect and you won’t be upgrading will you?

    How about,

    http://www.applegazette.com/imac/imac-lcd-problems-continue-to-grow/

    http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/12/19/imac.issues.persist/

    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1073945&tstart=0

    Yer super mental powers are fading, fanboi. Drink some more koolaid.

  11. Go outside and get some fresh air, you’re embarrassing yourself in public.

    Yer fallacious attempt of appearing genuinely concerned is overshadowed by yer obvious incapacity to develop a cogent thought.

  12. Here’s a quote from Jim Allchin, Windows Development Chief:

    Mr. Allchin says, “I’m not sure how the company lost sight of what matters to our customers, both business and home, the most, but in my view we lost our way. I think our teams lost sight of what bug-free means, what resilience means, what full scenarios mean, what security means, what performance means, how important current applications are, and really understanding what the most important problems our customers face are. I see lots of random features and some great vision, but that does not translate into great products. He goes on to say, I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft.”

    That was in Jan. 2004. I guess no-one listened to the one honest man at Micro$hit.

    Allchin retired on the day they launched Vista, Jan. 30 2007.

    Why didn’t they keep him and make him the Boss?
    Because Gates was threatened by his intelligence and honesty.

    Joking apart guys, Microsoft and Gates really are bad bastards, and they don’t care about anything but power and money.

  13. ‘fictitious sobriquet’ is a tautology – all nicknames are fictitious, thats their very nature.

    You seem to be getting a bit hung up on the appellation thing….

    Also, I must remind you to put the ‘u’ into ‘soubriquet’, if you want the classic english spelling, although both are legitimate.

  14. @Clunker
    “I do give MS credit for the Ford Sync, a reasonably good first-effort product (something unheard of from MS!), and something Apple currently has no answer for”
    I own a Ford Edge and specifically deleted this overblown POS from the options list. The manual is over 80 pages long!

  15. This is definitely happening right in the middle of Microsoft’s core small-medium size business market at the moment. It’s not just the unreliability of Vista in a corporate environment, it’s also Microsoft’s ever spiralling license costs. As they sell less units they try and claw back the extra revenue through licensing. Ultimately how times can you repackage a word processor, database or spreadsheet?

    We’re currently developing a new version of our in-house system to be web based and therefore easily deployable. We’re trialling a mixed Linux and OSX platform and have been really impressed. It’s been a far more succesful trial that Vista.

    I do wish Apple would put a bit more effort into their business platform. Licensing is still expensive even if it is cheaper than M$.
    More effort needs to be put into OSX business solutions.

    Still our marketing and sales department are looking forward to getting Apple notebooks.

  16. CW,

    Do you think it would make sense for Apple to make a business edition? Something that would cater strictly to their needs and would take into consideration the fact that companies don’t really want change as much as they do consistency and reliability.

    Would that be a reassurance for businesses to switch?

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