it’s more likely they just don’t have the capability to do the new designs and get them out quickly enough.

That wasn’t obvious when they could claim that their chip supplier was holding them back.

Now when HP, Dell, Gateway, almost anyone actually, are bringing new technology to market faster than Apple it’s more obvious.

At least Apple users are used to being behind the mainstream PC marketplace in terms of hardware performance and innovation, so being slow to incorporate new technologies won’t hurt Apple as much as it would other companies.
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I did her last night and your momma. Your momma says I’m much better at fucking then you or any of your relatives.

You _can_ like Apple and still fail to be impressed by them. I’m with iMaki.

Although I suspect the real problem here is that you don’t like Apple, you lerve Apple. That’s just unhealthy, and the very reason why that cute girl at Starbucks you fantasise about thinks you’re a complete tool.

That’s like saying I want to buy a new car, Show me where I can get a car with a given list of features, oh, and the last thing though, it has to be a Saturn. (Macs are like Saturns, they are under-featured, their owners love them, and nobody else can understand why).

Where’s the only place you’re going to find that? A Saturn dealer.

“Ended with a pretty good match to the middle MacBook. The HP does have a 15-inch screen — though the same resolution as the MacBook’s 13 “

So you configured was a Macbook Pro equivalent with a 15″ screen, expresscard, HDMI output, much faster graphics than a Macbook? Anyway, when I configure that machine, it comes to $1198., without the useless photo app application, and with the home premium version of Vista. The Dell Latitude’s the same.

The point remains however that HP, Dell Gateway and others have all released notebooks based on the new Santa Rosa chip-set, priced at Mac levels or less, and Apple as always is lagging with getting new hardware out.

Well, they can’t blame IBM any more, in the Intel world, they have to take responsibility for their own slowness to get competitive machines to market.

” ‘So please show us the Windows notebook in the same price range that offers anything better that ships TODAY. ‘

Just go to the HP web site. Take your pick.”

I did. Configured their cheapest Core 2 Duo to closely match the $1,299 MacBook (I need DVD burning).

The HP dv6500t (like the base MacBook) also comes with a combo drive, so I had to upgrade to DVD burner, upgrade processor to 2.0 Ghz (they don’t go to 2.16), upgraded the HD from 80 to 120 GB, upgraded Vista, added virus protection and added photo album.

Ended with a pretty good match to the middle MacBook. The HP does have a 15-inch screen — though the same resolution as the MacBook’s 13 (I prefer the smaller size), and a better graphics card (this I’d like).

Mid sized MacBook: $1,299.
Cheapest Core 2 Duo HP: $1,386.99

So, tell me, where can I get a laptop equipped the same as the “new” Macbooks for the same price that can ALSO RUN OS X?

All you complainers are funny. If you are going to compare and complain, then go ahead and switch to Windows and shut the hell up. People who use Macs want to use OS X…

If you don’t understand value for money, then I have a stack of $100 bills, yours of only $200 each…

The Santa Rosa laptops are coming… I’m sure this is just a way to clear out the 2.14 processors faster (they were only in the MBPs before, remember?).

How can anyone complain that they are now giving MORE for the same price as a laptop that was a still a great value last week? I don’t get you guys.

I think that most people who complain aren’t even in the market for a new machine anyway… geez.

Or, We cripple our OS so you have to use our computers with 2 year old technology to run it..

Some “BMW”… Integrated graphics, an old processor, and no DVD burner… All for just a few hundred dollars more than a better equipped PC….

Better motto: Not the Latest technology? It’s a Mac!

Just go to the HP web site. Take your pick.

Don’t take the complaints too seriously, it’s all part of the game.

MDN word “major” as in where’s the next major upgrade?

LOL.. either that or the two are completely unrelated..also known as a coincidence..

It shows the competition & FUD sayers that Apple inc. are not sitting on their hands waiting for the release of the decade.

This is a shot across the bows of “SS Pc” and all who sail in her to say that Apples fingers & thumbs may be busy on the iphone but Apple’s little fingers are capable of spinning out a product or two now & then!

@Martin – I hope you’re wrong about the connection between the update and the stock price. If earnings over the next 3 years are materially affected by this item I’d be surprised though not shocked.

My new motto? “Not a Mac? TAKE IT BACK!”

No DVD burning on base model… in 2007. Hmmmm….

Underwhelming to say the least. And ridiculous.

This is because Marketing drives this company, not technology.

possible?

I sure hope so. What about those LED backlit screens, eh? And that new 965 graphics chipset looks real nice… (Fact: the 965 chipset integrated graphics is on level with Radeon X1600 in the current 20” iMac – a consumer level machine).

Re: Clyde’s comment about the old days. Wasn’t part of the problem with Power PCs was the delay or lack of larger chips? Guess that’s why it was a big to do back then. Now the chips are available. This wasn’t worthy of note, Apple.

Anyone gonna watch the Seinfeld series finale this Thursday?

“Read this article here for more information:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2130181,00.asp“

The only Santa Rosa laptop mentioned in the article was a Gateway coming in at $2,100 (follow the link for a review with price.)

So I’m supposed to be outraged that Apple’s $1,000 laptop doesn’t have the same chipset as Gateway’s $2,100 model?

Read this article here for more information:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2130181,00.asp

Apple, why are you not keeping up with the rest of the industry?

I was expecting the Santa Rosa chip set in the MacBook Pro. Although they were looking at today for an announcement (only as of Friday – big whoop) none of the rumor sites anticipated a speed bump for the plain MacBook. I’m wholly unimpressed, and hope this isn’t a tidbit thrown to the crowds so that we’ll wait patiently until the June 11 keynote at the WWDC.

Unfortunately, the faster CPU doesn’t make up for the fact that the gfx subsystem is pitifully crippled. Unfortunately, even with the modern CPU architecture, this laptop will suffer in WOW even at lowest settings. For the same game, this is probably comparable to (or worse than) a 3-year old 12″ PowerBook G4.

If they had upgraded the video chip I would have bought one today to replace my wife’s aging laptop. Sorry, Apple… no sale here

I’m not sure saying the MacBook range is ‘competitive’ with a 2 year old platform.

All they’ve done is upgrade the processor option one level and phase out the cd-rom (which should never been there in the first place). Other manufacturer’s update their spec options all the time and don’t feel the need to announce it as an update (with a big splash on their website).

I assume this is a marketing led decision to avoid giving a platform update to the MacBook before the MacBook Pro but at the same time been seen updating their range in line with other manufacturers.

Just give your customers the latest spec’s and stop being so cynical with your marketing.

MDN: values

Odd the way Macs took 10% of the US laptop market in Q1 then…

Bottom line: Apple took the cheap route

Also : What the heck is anyone doing with a non-DVD burner in a $1000 laptop?

possible?

So please show us the Windows notebook in the same price range that offers anything better that ships TODAY. Hell, I still see Core Duo (not C2D) based notebooks out there from HP, Dell, etc. Now THAT is yesterday’s technology…….