“Apple is expected to launch its next generation Leopard operating system (OS) in April, but according to industry sources, the release of the new OS will be postponed to October to allow Apple to make Leopard support Windows Vista through an integrated version of its Boot Camp software,” Ruby Huang and Joseph Tsai report for DigiTimes.
“The sources pointed out that the launch delay is not due to software design problems with Leopard but instead is attributed to Apple’s plan to have its new OS support Windows Vista through an integrated version of Boot Camp. Boot Camp is an Apple software application that currently assists in the installation of Windows XP on computers using Apple’s latest OS. The company hopes with support for Vista, Mac computers using the new OS can grab more market share, according to the sources,” Huang and Tsai report.
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Now, on a slightly different tack, Jacqui Cheng reports for Ars Technica, “Our sources have told Ars that there is very little chance (“and that would be pushing it”) for Leopard to ship in late April—that is, if Apple wants to ship with a halfway stable operating system.”
Cheng reports, “‘We still have the same seed we got 2 weeks ago,’ we are told. ‘I’d say it’s barely beta, not Final or Gold Master.’ Is it possible that Apple is keeping some of its key developers in the dark by holding back a surprise, nearly-perfect build? Sure. Anything is possible. But seems like just about the worst idea ever if the company wants anyone’s software to work when Leopard comes out. This is not super-insider information either, say our sources. ‘Anybody who has really worked with a Tiger or Panther seed will know the same stuff.'”
“So can we expect a Leopard release in late April, for rizzle? I’m certainly not, and according to our sources, you shouldn’t either… When do they personally theorize Leopard will actually be ready to ship? ‘June.'”
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MacDailyNews Note: Apple states on their website, “Leopard. Coming spring 2007.” The last day of spring 2007 is June 20th.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
What a crock of crap! There is no way in Hell Steve will allow an inferior operating system like Vista to delay the release of Leopard. Period. Letting the inmates control the asylum has been tried before, with very poor results, I might add. Letting Microsoft’s inadequacies affect AAPL and the rest of the Mac faithful would be suicidal.
Why the heck would apple delay Leopard for Vista support?? They could accomplish this through a patch. Also, isn’t vista just a shameless knockoff?? Why do i want to buy a fake rolex when i can get the real deal for cheaper?
Save my money until June. Oh well!
<cough> bulls#!t
Awww HELL no!
I want Leopard… this spring, please…
Talk about a non-story here. I highly doubt that Vista support in Boot Camp is a major dealbreaker with getting Leopard out on time. 98% of Mac users that will use Windows in Boot Camp don’t have any need for Vista anyway, XP support is plenty enough.
Until either Apple announces otherwise, or June 20th passes with nothing, Leopard is still on pace for an on time release. There are still 89 more days left until June 20th folks.
Someone’s trying to manipulate the stock.
Whether Apple ships this Spring — by June 20 — is debatable. It does not sound close to ready now, according to all developer sources we’ve read about. But to delay it to make it ready for Vista — a Boot Camp issue — is laughable.
As MDN points out – and I’ve just checked it to make sure – Apple states quite clearly that Leopard is coming in the spring.
I can’t believe Apple wouldn’t have discretely removed this if this were no longer the case.
YEAH, AND ELVIS IS GOING TO PERSONALLY DEMO IT … JACKASSES
What if, and I’m no programmer so I don’t even know this is possible, But what boot camp is reinvented to allow the user to run Windows programs without a MS operating system.
Load in any programs written for XP or above game, photoshop, stock analyst program, Restaurant table management, whatever and it runs on a mac.
I can see the add now:
Windows Software, Mac Software, Linux Software – It all runs on your Mac under Tiger! No Microsoft needed!
The genius of OSX is that is is so damn good, and completes the great Mac hardware design, which also helps sell macs. Great design+ Great OS= Great end user experience day in, day out. If OSX stunk, Apple would have been bought by Sony a few years ago. The great design alone wouldn’t have been a money maker.
If Tiger can do this, Apple will sell more Macs, and overtime we will see more and more Software written for OS X….’
But like I said, I don’t even know if this is technically feasible….. But what a marketing coup it would be!
What a bunch of cr*p. Who is listening to those guys? These analysts should be treated like mushrooms. Feed them sh*t and keep in darknes.
For now Leopard is coming in spring 2007.
Apple: If you delay for the sake of Vista support, I shall shun you.
I doubt you’ll do this, because, well, that’s like postponing the iPhone so it will work with the Zune Marketplace.
And that would be criminally idiotic.
So. Let’s ship this sucker, eh?
-c
April 15, Apple will finally announce the “secret” features with a Leopard demo. Apple will then announce that it wont ship until Summer 07 because all of the “secret” features need to be thoroughly tested before shipping Leopard.
It is clear that Apple has a surprise in Leopard that it is waiting to spring on all of us. I think that is the reason for the current seed to be substandard. But how that surprise is impacting the launch is another question. It could be that the surprise feature isn’t ready yet or that some other component of the surpise feature (say something with iPhone, or appleTV or something like that) isn’t ready. But there is not possible world that I can think of where Apple would delay the launch for Vista incorporation. Granted, Vista is the most widely used piece of software on the planet and OSX is hacked daily, but still.
Vista? What’s Vista?
Mac OS X’s Bootcamp can “support” XP easily (althought it’s not really support).
But the hardware requirements of Vista means that many Mac models, such as the MacBook (no separate graphics card) don’t have the necessary oompf to run it. Why would Apple expose Windows sufferers to the promise of running Vista on a Mac, only to have it collapse under the weight of Vista’s resource-gluttony? The point of Boot Camp is to be able to run a few Windows apps, not to run Windows itelf.
Keep Boot Camp an XP-only deal. It also stays on message–that Vista is something you DON’T want to “upgrade” to.
@ grognard
“What if, and I’m no programmer so I don’t even know this is possible, But what boot camp is reinvented to allow the user to run Windows programs without a MS operating system.
Load in any programs written for XP or above game, photoshop, stock analyst program, Restaurant table management, whatever and it runs on a mac.”
Well, of course this is the promised land, the nirvana of personal computing, and this is, in all likelihood, exactly what Apple is working toward with BootCamp and virtualization.
But to hold up the ship date to make it work with an OS whose adoption rate has been tepid at best, is simply ludicrous. The installed base of XP is what we’re after. Vista adopters are bound and determined to use PCs. They have to be, because to run Vista with any kind of success requires a brand new one. They are not worth chasing, not now, not when it means holding up the release of a FAR better OS.
Personally, I don’t buy it for a second. If there is a delay, it’s certainly not about Vista.
-c
When people have asked me when Leopard would be released I say Spring, which is Apple speak for June.
It’s definitely Friday. So much poppycock online today.
Somebody is jumping the fun on April Fool’s Day. It’s a week away still.
I pulled out the Ouija board and it spelled out:
Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard Release: June 11th, 2007, WWDC07, Moscone Center West, San Francisco, California.
It took about an hour but it was worth it.
http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/faq/
Waiting for Vista? I don’t think so. As someone said, a software update could fix that issue. Let’s just wait until spring is over and then see where we are.