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Greek Mac users urge Apple to launch dedicated Greece business unit

Monday, October 30, 2006 · 9:31 am · 32 Comments

“Greek Mac users are revolting – launching a new protest website that demands Apple launch a dedicated Apple Greece business unit,” Jonny Evans reports for Macworld UK.

Evans reports, “The Greeks are upset that Apple, like many computer manufacturers, has no dedicated Greek presence. The company doesn’t even offer a Greek version of its website.”

Evans reports, “They have even launched a petition to lobby Apple to address this. This has attracted 349 votes so far.”

Full article with links here.

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MacRaven

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 10:43 am · Reply

Ok, say it 12 times as fast as you can…

“Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks, Greek Geeks.”

MDN magic word= “Hard” yep.
Dion

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 10:44 am · Reply

Too bad. Most of the Greeks hate America. Now they make demands on an American company?
Eric24601

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 10:45 am · Reply

Steve Jobs better not invoke the wrath of the Olympian gods.
MacRaven

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 10:46 am · Reply

OR even worse:

“Greece Greek Geeks, Greece Greek Geeks, Greece Greek Geeks…”
Gavron

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 10:53 am · Reply

Dion,

where do you get this twaddle from peabrain?

Most Greeks I know – and I know a lot – don’t hate any country …
with the possible exception of Turkey.
ron

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 10:54 am · Reply

>”Greece Greek Geeks, Greece Greek Geeks, Greece Greek Geeks…”>

SB–”Greasy Greek Geeks, Greasy Greek Geeks, Greasy Greek Geeks…”
iVeritas

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 10:55 am · Reply

Try that with “pink blob”
loki capret

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 11:01 am · Reply

I came, I saw, iPod…
st1

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 11:03 am · Reply

everybody hates turkisch people
Spark

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 11:11 am · Reply

Hmmmm…. I don’t find Greeks revolting. In fact, I thing they are pretty nice.
Belmont

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 11:20 am · Reply

Too bad. Most of the Greeks hate America. Now they make demands on an American company?
— Dion

Oh, please. You’re confusing yourself with America again.
DLMeyer

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 11:27 am · Reply

There’s always the question of “how small an audience is too small?”. My wife was in a play recently where the cast was larger than the audience. But, the actors didn’t expect to get paid – nothing unusual, there. Apple expects to make a profit. We expect Apple to make a profit. Does Apple need to hire a Greek-fluent Web-designer to update that part of their site? Would that geek be the Greek Business Unit?
How many Macs would Apple have to sell in Greece to support even that minimal expense? Fingers and toes time:
* cost of employee salary + office + benefits + server = $100,000/yr
* profit on typical Mac = $250
* break-even point = 100,000/250 = 400 Macs
OK … I confess – I made those numbers up. Apple makes more on each Mac that isn’t a ‘mini’ and that $100k is maybe a little low. But can you even call a single mid-level geek a “business unit”? Figure a “business unit” doing little more than focusing on translation and supply questions will cost five times that, even if it doesn’t include a ‘project manager’ or the like but is instead just a line item on a generic manager’s budget. Now we are up to “thousands of Mac sales” – just to break even. Do Greeks buy thousands of Macs every year? Would they buy additional thousands of Macs yearly if Apple spent this kind of money to appease them?
nsapap

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 11:28 am · Reply

Dion,

I have to agree with Gavron — your comments reflect your ignorance / immaturity.

I am Greek-American and have several cousins in Greece that use Mac’s in the University where they work. They themselves have said, however, that the lack of Apple’s (the company) presence makes it tough for them to convince others about the advantages of the Mac platform. European sales of Macs are on the rise — why shouldn’t Apple do what it can to continue that trend? (Maybe the size of that particular market isn’t considered “worthwhile” enough, but, every little gain in customers is a step in the right direction for Apple).
Read it

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 11:29 am · Reply

It isn´t just Greece, all of Europe needs better Apple representation. The company is all but invisible in Europe.
One wonders what the head of marketing for Europe does? Or is there even one?
PC Apologist

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 11:39 am · Reply

MDN: “Greek Mac users are revolting”

PCA: “Yes, and they smell awful, too!”

Too easy?

Seriously, though.. good luck, Greecers.
ron

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 11:44 am · Reply

>The company is all but invisible in Europe.>

I was in a computer store in Derry, Northern Ireland, and asked about Macs. The salesman actually laughed out loud. They did have Macs in the store, but weren’t interested in selling them.
TowerTone

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 12:08 pm · Reply

I heard that way back when the Greeks first started using Macs, all the activities were done in the nude.
ron

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 12:10 pm · Reply

>I was in a computer store in Derry, Northern Ireland, and asked about Macs. The salesman actually laughed out loud. They did have Macs in the store, but weren’t interested in selling them.>

BTW–they weren’t plugged in.
Jim - the independent voter

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 12:22 pm · Reply

@ron

“BTW–they weren’t plugged in.”

same thing I find at Fry’s Electronics. They’re plugged in, but every setting and system preference you can screw up has been screwed up.
Jim - the independent voter

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 12:24 pm · Reply

@TowerTone
ok.. are you the real Ampar?
TowerTone

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 12:35 pm · Reply

“ok.. are you the real Ampar?”

I am but the student, not the master…
Jvpiter

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 12:36 pm · Reply

Who said that Greeks hate Americans? Dion maybe you are talking about yourself.

Ignorance. Nobody hates anybody, they simply want what the rest of Europe already has. Official representation. Read their website before you start making your comments. They pay for those macs ya know.
TURK

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 1:10 pm · Reply

did just some one said ” everybody hates turkisch people ” ……? st1 …? I guess you want to say TURK not turkisch ….! im here to teach you how you should say TURK ===== thats the way you should say..!

have a great day to all mac users..
extremely-well-informed

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 1:31 pm · Reply

The vast majority of the people in the world hate America’s government.

And they hate Dion.

But, the Greeks don’t want no freaks. Or Dions.
st1

Monday, October 30, 2006 - 1:49 pm · Reply

to TURK: whatever, we all hate you, togheter with the Marock people