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RUMOR: Apple Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard to ship January 2007 and feature collaborative documents

Thursday, June 8, 2006 · 11:52 pm · 55 Comments

“Since Apple announced Leopard last year during WWDC, MacOSXRumors obtained reports on two major features in the next release of Mac OS X. The first is a redesigned Finder making extensive use of Spotlight and the second is the inclusion [of] virtualization software. Recently sources have been indicating that Leopard will feature easy collaborative work throughout the OS,” Alexandros Roussos reports for MacOSXRumors. “The main idea is that it will be possible to declare a document as available for collaborative use over a network or Internet. Users who want to work on this document will be able to connect and work simultaneously on it. Modifications made by each user will be updated in real time for all connected users.”

“MacOSXRumors has also obtained what could be precise information about release timeframe of Mac OS X Leopard and iWork ‘07. Both of them will probably be released in January 2007, during the annual MacWorld SF opening,” Roussos reports.

Full article here.

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jay

Friday, June 9, 2006 - 2:11 pm · Reply

I should have said one of the reasons. Maybe I’m confused. How , potentially, is this any different that the iChat fiasco? That involved open ports which “something” attacked, componded by dufus users. That attack was a dud, but it’s simply inevitable that OS X will be exploited in a way that can’t be explained away, as the past two “somethings” were. Doze sucks and I don’t run anti virus software, but OS X absolutely will be compromised at some point. Again, granting internet access to your machine, no matter how well intentioned or work-related, is asking for trouble.
Habitual Line Stepper

Friday, June 9, 2006 - 2:13 pm · Reply

Reality Check – I think if the past is any indicator – we’ll find that it may not have been first but it will definitely be better. And enjoy it while you can…M$ might just pull the feature prior to release.
MCCFR

Friday, June 9, 2006 - 2:14 pm · Reply

@ RC >

Once again. Windows Collaboration is a conferencing environment that allows you to share activities within that “conference”. It’s just NetMeeting updated for the 21st century, which is almost current technology for Mediocresoft.

As likely as not, Apple’s technology will merely require you to “share” your document and either invite or permit your co-collaborators to receive their own copies of your document and then subsequently modify them for the benefit of all collaborators. No conferencing required, although I’ll wager that collaboration within an iChat session will be massively enhanced and I’ll also wager that the power of the Core Duo and Leopard will be utilised to increase the maximum number of participants in a conference.

Interestingly – in Windows Collaboration – if you wish to share your document over a wide-area Internet link, you have to use IPv6 addressing which – depending on your infrastructure – may require you to implement ISATAP on Windows Server 2003.

I’ll bet dollars to doughnuts right now that, if these reports are true, wide-area collaboration in Leopard will be far more plug-and-play than the Windows equivalent, and – furthermore – I’ll bet you that the technology will be based far more on open standards than Microsoft’s normal “embrace, extend, extinguish” philosophy.

If you want more info, go have a look at <a >this document</a> so you can start planning for wide-area collaboration when Vista starts shipping sometime in 2007. We look forward to you joining us, although – as ever with you guys – be careful when you’re opening up your firewall.

One last thing: how about a sportsman’s bet that Windows Collaboration will only be in so-called “professional” editions of Vista whilst Apple will ship its collaboration software as standard.
MCCFR

Friday, June 9, 2006 - 2:15 pm · Reply

this document

Sorry about that!
MCCFR

Friday, June 9, 2006 - 2:33 pm · Reply

Oh, let me tell my funny “MSFT are a bunch of incompetent money-grubbing bastards” story for today.

One of my customer’s runs WIndows Small Business Server 2003 Premium Edition – now remember that “Premium” bit, it means they’ve already paid a premium to get certain enhanced functionality.

So, MSFT finally release SP1 for Windows SBS 2003 (God knows, it’s only 2006) which is nice because my customer wishes to implement Symantec (née Veritas) Backup Exec 10d in all its glory and that requires SP1.

Approximately, three weeks ago I started to download all the SP1 components and then discovered that the SP1 updates for the “premium” elements were only available if you requested the physical CD for which there was a charge.

My first attempt to register for the SP1 CD was aborted when MSFT’s web server told me “there was a problem”. My second attempt then told me that my license key had already been registered. An e-mail to Microsoft Direct Services over a week ago failed to elicit any response. So I finally managed to track down a phone number today which appeared to connect me to someone in The Netherlands or somesuch judging by the accent.

Firstly, I was told that they apologised for not responding to my e-mail, but they received a lot of e-mails and couldn’t respond to all of them (why have an address then?).

Then I was told I’d have to dig out the original invoice from the distributor (Ingram Micro) which is nice and convenient because it was only 18 months ago that we purchased it, so we don’t mind having to dig through our dormant accounts records.

Then I was told we’d have to pay £7. And then whilst I was trying to pay the £7, I had to supply our postcode at which point their server crashed.

The sooner I convert this customer to Macintosh the better.
MCCFR

Friday, June 9, 2006 - 2:38 pm · Reply

And I’m sure there’s no connection between how difficult it has been to organise this service pack and the fact that MSFT are about to release a “paid-for” upgrade to SBS 2003 R2. After all that would be a cynical thing to imply.
DLMeyer

Friday, June 9, 2006 - 2:48 pm · Reply

Secret Agent, it’s actually slightly over 3% – and that’s of all systems purchased. Apple markets primarily to the 1/3 of the market – the consumers – so they are actually at about 10% of their market. And add into that the fact that Macs have half-again the expected useful life of your typical PC and you see that the number of actual Mac users is comfortably in the double-digits (of consumers. But … their share of the total market is growing, even as the market is growing, so “we’re good”.

gagravaar said: Collaborative software is totally feasible now (and has been around since Panther), SubEthaEdit is a case in point and a great piece of software.

However applications would have to be rewritten to take advantage of collaboration, so you ain’t gonna be able to share InDesign, or Word docs.

I expect that Pages & Keynote will have this when the next upgrade ships.

Pages, Keynote, and iChat! And iCal? How about the bulk of the iLife ’07 bundle? GarageBand, iMovie and iWeb – maybe iPhoto? Given extended linkage – like that already in place with iLife ’06 – four ‘board members’ could get together (iChat) to build a (GarageBand) video podcast to go over the calendar (iCal) for the group’s outing – then publish it (iWeb) for the rest of the membership.

Just a few thoughts.
montex

Friday, June 9, 2006 - 2:51 pm · Reply

I simply don’t trust Microsoft. Until there is a law that prevents them from collecting private information, I will never buy or use Windows or any net collaboration software.

I thought we were supposed to be “security conscious” after 9-11? Giving Microsoft access to all my personal information doesn’t seem like a very wise thing to do – no matter how many times they keep saying “just trust us”.
TheConfuzed1

Friday, June 9, 2006 - 3:59 pm · Reply

MCCFR–

Does the client need you more than you need the client? If so, tell them that a switch is mandatory.
OzzysCross101

Friday, June 9, 2006 - 4:14 pm · Reply

||To add to DL’s list, I could see perhaps some Pro apps going for this collaborative thing without a problem. If GarageBand and iMovie do, then it would be feasible to see Logic and Final Cut do it as well, and while they’re at it, Motion, Shake, DVD Studio Pro, Soundtrack, and Aperture have it inborn in their next versions as well.
Mark

Friday, June 9, 2006 - 5:15 pm · Reply

I’m easy…

All I want in Leopard are the following two things:

1) Lables that shade the folder (as they do in classic) AND with the ability to set the label colors to your preference. (I can’t stand these fruity label colors in OS X).

2) A “Taskmenubar” like feature.

– Mark
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Friday, June 9, 2006 - 9:05 pm · Reply

There are only two things I know for sure about Leopard:

[1] It will be released.
[2] I will not be upgrading until at lest 6-9 months in after they have rolled out some updates.

Wimp? NO. Logical? Yes.
ishufflemyfeet

Saturday, June 10, 2006 - 6:08 am · Reply

“It’s an orangy sky
Always it’s another guy
It’s just a broken lullaby…”
Yup...

Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 3:16 pm · Reply

“[1] It will be released.”

Unlike Vista, which will be delayed further due to all Microshaft’s lawsuits which will swallow all its cash and delay vista so it’s ‘just at the end of the rainbow’- hence the name, vista, for the lovely view from the grassy hill of windoze xp’s background: Vista is leprechaun’s gold.

Down with Monkeyßoi!