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Dvorak blames obsessive compulsive disorder, not Microsoft for virus problems

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 · 1:37 pm · 62 Comments

“An estimated 3.3 million Americans alone have obsessive compulsive disorder, or OCD, and more attention is being paid to the problem than ever before. At least two hit TV shows have main characters who exhibit the problem (Monk and Law & Order: Criminal Intent). The latest iterations of e-mail

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Seahawk

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 2:53 pm · Reply

Hey MDN, lol, this is also one of the things I show my switchers: opening email attachments with Windows viruses and watching them sweat. It is required in that most do not believe the virus could not ruin the Mac has it happens on the PC.

One commented: “I though it was just BS from Mac zealots”
Joe McConnel

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 2:54 pm · Reply

LOL rather convoluted, Dvorak
James

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 2:55 pm · Reply

I am so sick of Microsoft apologists and so happy to have a site like MDN to bitch slap them with reality! Dvorak has been quiet lately, but he makes Thurrott / Enderle look like Jobs / Wozniak when opens his fat mouth about Microsoft and Apple. Have another doughnut, John.
al sharpton

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 3:00 pm · Reply

Al Sharpton is visiting a primary school and he visits one of the classes.� They are in the middle of a discussion related to words and their meanings. The teacher asks the Rev. Sharpton if he would like to lead the discussion of the word “tragedy.”

So the illustrious leader asks the class for an example of a “tragedy.”

One little boy stands up and offers: “If my best friend, who lives on a� farm, is� playing in the field and a runaway tractor comes along and knocks him dead, that would be a tragedy.” “No,” says the Great Al Sharpton,” that would be an accident.”

A little girl raises her hand: “If a school bus carrying 50 children drove over a cliff, killing everyone inside, that would be a tragedy.” “I’m afraid not,” explains the exalted spiritual leader. “That’s what we would call a great loss.”

The room goes silent. No other children volunteer. Rev. Sharpton searches the room. “Isn’t there someone here who can give me an example of a tragedy?”

Finally at the back of the room a small boy raises his hand. In a quiet voice he says: “If a plane carrying the Rev. Sharpton were struck by a missile and blown to smithereens that would be a tragedy.”

“Fantastic!” exclaims Sharpton, “That’s right. And can you tell me why that would be tragedy?” “Well,” says the boy, “because it sure as hell wouldn’t be a great loss and it probably wouldn’t be an accident either.”
ABQ Peter

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 3:03 pm · Reply

MS Windows doesn’t cause viruses; people cause viruses.
John Dvorak – the original Thurrott.
cpr86

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 3:07 pm · Reply

My buddy just switched today. He bought a ibook. He was tired of viruses, crashes, freezed and dealing with Micro$oft.
Don

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 3:14 pm · Reply

So let me get this straight.

According to Dvorak, if I put a box with $10,000 in it out in the middle of the street with a sign on it that says, “take me,” the problem is not that I was stupid enough to put the money in a cheap box in an obvious place, but with the people who saw the sign and simply followed it.

Whatever…
Reality Check

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 3:30 pm · Reply

There are no viruses on Macintoshes because nobody cares about the platform other than Macfags. With the same work somebody can reach 95% instead of 2%. Logical.
Actual Reality Check

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 3:33 pm · Reply

Sorry to interject actual reality into your world, Reality Check, but now you can read and learn:

Related MacDailyNews articles:
Is Mac OS X really inherently more secure than Windows? – August 26, 2003
BusinessWeek’s Haddad gets it wrong; thinks low market share spares Macs from viruses – August 28, 2003
Shattering the Mac OS X ‘security through obscurity’ myth – August 28, 2003
Fortune columnist: ‘get a Mac’ to thwart viruses; right answer for the wrong reasons – September 02, 2003
New York Times: Mac OS X ‘much more secure than Windows XP’ – September 18, 2003
Columnist tries the ‘security through obscurity’ myth to defend Windows vs. Macs on virus front – October 1, 2003
Gates: Windows ‘by far the most secure’ system; tries to use ‘Mac OS X secure through obscurity’ myth – January 27, 2004
Mac OS X has no viruses; what’s wrong with Windows? – February 11, 2004
Reality Check

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 3:33 pm · Reply

“we just clicked 10 email attachments … and absolutely nothing at all happened”

You retard, what did you expect? Macintoshes use different binary format for executables. That’s the big security feature? Macmoron.
Cobra

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 3:41 pm · Reply

Ah, Reality Check. It’s the little bitch troll from The Mac Observer now coming over here to post. Branching out aren’t we jackass? You’ll get blasted in this forum 10 times worse than you ever have over there. Your feeble opinions won’t get you nearly as far on this site. And I see you still don’t have a job yet either huh? Well, since you have lots of free time with nothing to do other than troll, welcome aboard bitch.
Fred Mertz

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 3:45 pm · Reply

Reality Check,

You really should hightail it back over to TMO. MDN is the big leagues and you will be burnt to a crisp here faster than you can check on reality. We don’t play around and there are a lot more intelligent people posting here. Go back to where you came from, things will be easier for you.

You’ve been warned. Consider this message your own private reality check.
MacMan

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 3:46 pm · Reply

Reality Check:
wow. suprise, name calling from another fear of the unknown M$ apologist. Have you ever even used a Mac, or seen any of the security measures available in OS X. My guess is no.

cpr86:
I have switched over half a dozen in the last 6 months, and come this school year, I will be switching another half dozen college students.

Very good news.
Joe McConnel

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 3:48 pm · Reply

This is a tough crowd Reality Check. I have read your posts over at the Mac Observer and I don’t think you have the brains or vocabulary to stick here, but we shall see.
Michael

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 3:54 pm · Reply

Reality Check wrote, “Macintoshes use different binary format for executables.”

Gee, thanks for the news flash, genius. That was sarcasm, as was MDN’s take, in part. Now eat shit, then steer your consumer-grade, commodity Windows PC over to your Mecca, CNET, and read this repeatedly until you understand it:

Those who surf the Web using a Mac tend to be better educated and make more money than their PC-using counterparts, according to a report from Nielsen/NetRatings.
Jimbo

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 3:57 pm · Reply

Unfortunately, Mr. Dvorak represents the attitude of many IT managers. “Don’t blame Microsoft – it isn’t their fault”. As a consequence, they get what they ask for – absolutely nothing. If a few would show the balls to dump the monoculture and add a few Linux and Mac boxes and take action on Microsoft’s non-delivery, then perhaps they could get somewhere.

Then there’s Reality Check; head firmly planted in the sand (or is that up the sand – maybe it’s not even sand). When faced with reality, it’s deny, deny, blame and pass the buck. He’ll be rolling out the market share myth shortly – amazing how a single platform gets 99.99% of the viruses.
Seahawk

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 3:58 pm · Reply

Joe: I think Reality Check is way below our radar. He is so stupid another PC user like you is enough to deal with him. Concerning some of your ancient questions about why Mac users are sometimes harsh with PC users, there, Reality Check is your answer.

After all, viruses on Windows need an idiot in front of the keyboard, without turds like Reality Check Microsoft would have less security shambles in the news.

Get along with it Joe: RC is the prototype of PC user. Don’t you hate to share your platform with dense idiots?

I guess you have now the best reason for switching!
JadisOne

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 4:01 pm · Reply

Thanks for putting Reality Check in check.
Fred Mertz

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 4:01 pm · Reply

Follow the light, Joe McConnel, you know you want to – or we know it, at least. Come on, contented computing awaits you:

http://www.apple.com/
GruvDOne

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 4:03 pm · Reply

Well, despite how big a tool Reality Check is, it is true that there is simply not any virus authoring on the Mac platform (yet). Partly due to the smaller market share, but do as much to the fact that many in the hacking community prefer UNIX, and would never shit in thier own backyards.

My question is…. if you are a PeeCee advocate, then why in the blue flaming hell do you even go to Mac sites at all. I don’t go to PeeCee sites because I am not interested in that platform, and subsequently am not interested in the thoughts or philosophies of those who use it. It seems to me that you have a rather unhealthy need for attention, and/or some serious self-esteem issues.

Might I suggest taking up a hobby (other than picking pointless fights), get a pet, a signifigantother, or maybe even a job. Better yet, try using your computer for something positive and creative…. oh wait… I forgot… you’re on a PeeCee, so scratch the last suggestion.
Anon

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 4:07 pm · Reply

GruvDOne,

You are wrong. Mac OS X is simpy more secure. So-called obscurity (if you can call the 10 million+ Mac OS X users “obscure”) has nothing to do with it:

New York Times: Mac OS X ‘much more secure than Windows XP’
Joe McConnel

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 4:13 pm · Reply

Fred, show me a headless mac, g4 1.5 ghz, 512 ram, preferably in a shuttlelike (small cube) platform, for $800 and I will buy one. The market is screaming for one. Until that time I will not become one of Steve’s punks.

For that hardware, I would even stoop so low as to “share platform” with RV.
Joe McConnel

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 4:14 pm · Reply

That’s right, I said g4. I am a reasonable fellow.
Duhhhhh......

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 4:16 pm · Reply

Hey Reality Check, if you are going to post here at least show some intelligence. Maybe you could have your mommy type your posts for you? Hopefully at least she is smart enough to make sure she knows what she is talking about before posting.
Fred Mertz

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 4:21 pm · Reply

Joe,

If you want to become a Mac user, you have got to stop being a cheap bastard . Asking for something you know is not available is a defense mechanism. Pull the trigger, buddy:

Power Mac G4 1.25GHz/256MB/80GB/Combo/GigE/56K – Refurbished
$1,099.00

Hope this link works, but you can go to http://store.apple.com/ and click “Special Deals,” if it doesn’t:
Power Mac G4 link

Apple refurbished is like buying new. I have done it. You should do this.